Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Obama says health care critics use 'scare tactics'


Scare tactics or the truth, Mr. Occupier in Chief? It is you who have used scare tactics from the day one on this travesty that you call a Health Care Plan . Let’s just call it what it is, Socialized Medicine and cut the lies , OK? You claim that this must be passed “yesterday” and I ask WHY? Is it because you are afraid that when people have time to study this play they will revolt against it as they are doing now?

Why did you feel the need to go on the campaign trail again to try to sell this “snake oil” to the people? You sure picked a safe place to give your sales pitch after all these folks have imbibed in the socialist koolaide for so long that they wouldn’t know a lie if someone underlined it in red for them. I would imagine that the crowd was well cherry picked as well but I see you allowed one lone Republican (if he actually was one and not an Axelrod, chief astroturfer plant to make you look good)

Asking for criticism of a plan when you know the crowd is safe is cowardly Mr. Chief Occupier but then you have always been a coward haven’t you? You will not go where you might be questioned since your ego can’t handle it. We have seen your outburst of temper when someone dares to question you on anything.

Mr. Chief Occupier, it’s time to stop the lies. Your Obamination called Heath Care is DEAD and you will become a lame duck before you have finished your first year, Thank God!


He told his audience reassuringly, "For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this ... if you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need." He lied as usual:

That’s simply not true. Both the Associated Press and ABC News have already debunked this pledge, noting that White House officials have acknowledged the president’s rhetoric shouldn’t be taken “literally.” An independent study conducted by the Lewin Group predicted that 114 million Americans may be forced out of their current health care coverage, including more than 106 million Americans who currently have employer-provided health care. The point is, this White House cannot guarantee that Americans will be able to keep their plan – because they don’t know how many employers are going to drop their coverage altogether if their plan goes into effect.


He said the overhaul is essential to them, too, contending it is the way to keep control in their hands. Obama said while government bureaucrats should not meddle with people's care, bureaucrats at insurance companies should not, either. He lied again:

The Wall Street Journal noted in a July 20, 2009 editorial:
“The House bill says that after a five-year grace period all Erisa [Employee Retirement Income Security Act] insurance offerings will have to win government approval—both by the Department of Labor and a new ‘health choices commissioner’ who will set federal standards for what is an acceptable health plan. This commissar—er, commissioner—can fine employers that don’t comply and even has ‘suspension of enrollment’ powers for plans that he or she has vetoed, until ‘satisfied that the basis for such determination has been corrected and is not likely to recur.’ In other words, the insurance coverage of 132 million people—the product of enormously complex business and health-care decisions—will now be subject to bureaucratic nanomanagement.”

The people Obama called on for questions asked him largely about their personal medical concerns and how any new law would affect them. "We're not talking about cutting Medicare benefits," he said, trying to reassure one questioner. And more lies, as usual.

New York Times rebuts this claim: “To help finance coverage for the uninsured, Congress would squeeze huge savings out of Medicare, the program for older Americans and the disabled. These savings would pay nearly 40 percent of the bills’ cost. The legislation would trim Medicare payments for most services, as an incentive for hospitals and other health care providers to become more efficient. The providers make a plausible case that the cutbacks could inadvertently reduce beneficiaries’ access to some types of care.” An independent analysis of the House Democrats’ government-run plan shows the legislation slashes Medicare to the tune of $361.9 billion. That means fewer choices and lower health care quality for our nation’s seniors – exactly what then-Senator Obama blasted last fall, during the presidential campaign.

Hattip on fast check to Bubba at Noteworthy

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Obama to seniors .. DROP DEAD !

What a Socialist pig

Fred Gregory

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Sue said...

What a FANTASTIC post, Ticker. You really tell it like it is, and rightly so!

B.O. just WON'T TELL THE TRUTH!!! What happened to all his campaign rhetoric about "investigating NAFTA"???? I still makes me irrate! He is just a top notch politican...tell the people what they want to hear. They are too stupid to figure out the truth. Well, I got news for you, Buddy Boy...not this time!

Ticker said...

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Always On Watch said...

He told his audience reassuringly, "For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this ... if you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need."

I've done battle with the health-insurance industry (I usually won). Now I'm doing battle with the car-insurance industry (outcome yet to be seen).

As bad as my aforementioned battles have been, doing battle with the government bureaucracy is even worse! I've had experience with that as well -- and lost every single time.

BHO is such a liar -- pathologically, I think.

Inspector Clouseau said...

At this point, although the debate and spin continue, this bill is essentially dead from an emotional and mandate perspective, even if some version gets passed. Whether it ultimately proves to be of any benefit to society, or a detriment, will take years, if not decades, to appreciate.

This bill, and virtually anything that might be done to improve our healthcare system, involves too much complexity with which we are emotionally motivated to deal.

There's been too much arguing about the details. People can not describe in 2 or 3 sentences the conceptual parameters of the effort and what it is supposed to accomplish. Unfortunately, people can describe how they feel about it in 1 or 2 words, and that's not good.

If either side of the debate has to work this hard arguing about something which theoretically should improve the lives of the masses of people, there's a big problem.

Even more so than how something is done, people are interested in results, not the details. And once again, as is frequently the case with much of human processing, the facts don't really matter. How people view the world, what they value, and what they want, matters.

And there is nothing collaborative in nature about that. Factor in the strong individualistic American DNA, and this effort is emotionally toast. A country needs to know its limitations.

Ticker said...

Inspector, this bill needs to die given all the government control included in the bill. I have read it in total, the PDF version and the House version in print.
Too many things within this bill that violate not only human rights but violates the thinking of most individuals. The spin as you call it has come from the left to cover up the agenda they wish to have, which is giving them control of you life and mine from the cradle to the grave.
There is another bill that is being formulated and actually is ready to submit but the left will not even allow it to be presented at this point. It contains none of the violations that the bill of the leftist socialist in charge of this country are pushing.
Regardless of what it contains I will call both what they are, UNCONSTITUTIONAL. There is NO PLACE within the Constitution of this country that calls for the government to provide health care for citizens. When someone can show me exactly where that is contained then I will support some type of health bill but certainly not this one nor any other socialist directed disaster waiting to happen.
Until then, I am waiting to be shown. So far, no one has yet to provide any proof that health care is a "right". So I will continue to defend the Constitution that I took an oath to do over 40 years ago. I do not remember at any point setting aside this oath.